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Tenaciously Terfin's avatar

The poor little darlings. One wonders how the hell they will be able to cope with life once they have to leave their cocooned bubble. Trouble is they’ll probably travel from bubble to bubble until they end up in positions of power and can cause chaos with no criticism or debate permitted……a bit like the aim of our current Labour leaders and the EU.

John Sowle's avatar

It has really come to something when universities are actively working against the very thing that they are meant to foster; free speech, discussion and debate! 🤦🏼‍♂️

As you say, these attitudes will filter out into the workplace as they graduate.

Titus Arrius's avatar

Will they? With 75% of academics and civil servants evincing a left-liberal voting intention, will they? Or will they just be finding a safe haven? Of course, there are still professions where reality bites, but I doubt they would venture that far.

Frederick Alexander's avatar

It's a psychological type that, in earlier generations, would have been told to STFU – but is now mollycoddled, indulged, and encouraged in its petty authoritarianism.

As so often, I’m reminded of P. J. O’Rourke’s description of such types as spoiled children:

"...miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless".

Tenaciously Terfin's avatar

I think ‘gentle parenting’ has a lot to do with it. Children are never told no, it’s all about examining their feelings. The adults are offloading responsibility onto the children which results in them thinking they’re the centre of the universe. But it also has other adverse effects such as mental health problems due to too much rumination and self reflection. The adults need to take charge, reassert boundaries and allow children to be children.

Anne Stafford's avatar

How interesting that they say 'the lives of others'. This is the title of a (very good, I recommend it) film about life in East Germany under the Stasi.

And we thought these clowns had no self-awareness.

Frank Chambers's avatar

Oh dear. Wasn’t anyone paying them any attention?

I can just imagine a post-graduation job interview: “Went to Bangor, did you? Sorry, this role isn’t for you.”

They’ll have to do a Rachel on their CVs, that’s for sure.

chris pollitt's avatar

Well, remember, this is evolution in action.. right before our eyes.. they probably all trans or considering it ..and, am beginning to think we shouldn’t be trying to protect and look after this lot .. they so unbelievably thick.. so, the last thing we want is them reproducing..

no gain without pain and all that .. Give it another 8 years or so (it’s not that long in the grand scheme of things) and the lemmings will finally work it out ..then it will be some other form of attention seeking self harm (so, let’s plan for this .. special mushroom holidays in Australia?)

Blair et al watered down the quality of the Uni intake as only the genuinely bright uns made it back in the day and sadly many of those now have to rub shoulders with the seriously dumb .. it’s a real shame for those who would love to debate and desire to learn these excellent skills but the few who understand and have to hide their true views for fear of reprisals will learn much about the value of genuine free speech and how to outmaneuver safely in shark infested waters and will become the leaders of the future with excellent resilience and resistance skills.. meanwhile the infertile lemmings will be too busy with repeated tests and hospital appointments.. being looked after by their aging parents as no one else will look after them will they whilst they peeing in their beds night after night so I’ve changed tack.. bring it on I say and let’s end the loser line shall we?

chris pollitt's avatar

Oh and invest in big pharma and adult rainbow

Huggies ..

John Oliver Rawson's avatar

To butcher one of Alan Bennett’s best jokes, wild horses on bended knees couldn’t make me vote Reform. But that’s not the point, is it? Where does it go from here? Banning Conservatives because they also want to reduce immigration? Banning gender critical members of the Labour Party? Oh wait, I think that’s already happened What will they be left with except Your Party and the Greens? (Look on the bright side - with all those Green speakers, at least the female students can look forward to their breasts miraculously getting bigger.)

Sadly what starts on campus rarely stops on campus. We are going to find politicians on the left and centre left increasing shouted down and cancelled for trying to engage seriously with the issue of immigration. Reform will actually become what it claims to be - the only party that takes immigration seriously and reflects the views of the majority. The ‘no debate with racists’ brigade will have achieved the opposite of what they intended. To quote what Satan says to Adam and Eve in Paradise Lost,

‘Enjoy till I return

Short pleasures, for long woes are to succeed.’

Grace Under Fire's avatar

Btw, the breasts joke was in bad taste. Women are not our tits and we don’t all, as a matter of course (because you seem to think we are all the same) want them to be bigger. Even if you do.

John Oliver Rawson's avatar

I agree with you - I shouldn’t have put it in. It was of course a reference to Zack Polanski’s strange career as a hypnotherapist.

Titus Arrius's avatar

Wilful ignorance or cognitive dissonance is protective cocoon people inhabit to deal with fear and insecurity. Theirs is a shaky world view, sometimes exhibited by timidity, sometimes by aggression, but never by a desire for truth. The mark of a remarkable and great person is their willingness to to face contradictions and call them out, together with a belief in certain moral absolutes. Sadly we have a political elite whose pathway to power is mediated by a fanatical adherence to blowing with the wind. They are rudderless vessels. Pragmatism trumps principle. At the bottom of this is nihilism; the idea of something being 'good' in a moral sense, has been replaced by something that is 'right' - and they are not the same thing.

Dusty Masterson's avatar

Thanks, Andrew

The University should step in. This is unlawful.

Have cross posted

https://dustymasterson.substack.com/p/the-bone-collector-part-2

Dusty

Sufeitzy's avatar

Theophrastus wrote essentially that bad taste is “offense without injury”.

Woke treats bad taste as injury itself, which ironically is bad taste in ideas.

Pynchon's avatar

I sincerely hope AFAF get onto to this. The Student Union is in breach of the Higher Ed (Free Speech) Act if it fails to read the riot act to the Debating Soc. Bangor Uni should be reported to the Office for Students if they fail to step in.

Pynchon's avatar

I've heard from AFAF that because of Phillipson's dithering, the HEFSA does not apply to Student Union societies. They are challenging the university. Reform UK have pledged to sort this sort of thing out within 100 days of taking office. They must have a very long list by now!

Olga Peycheva's avatar

The only solution is to remove the authoritarian management regimes that have taken over universities and tell people how to think, however these are people on 'forever' contracts and protected by unions. Unfortunately, the workers rights have gone too far and now we cannot get rid of the crooks among the decent workers. Personally, I think schools and universities should be protected from all kind of ideology-infused employees.

Ally's avatar

It’s difficult to imagine what debates they actually allow to take place. Perhaps there’ll be one side passionately advocating for jam first whilst the other stands up for cream. Marmite - love it or hate it? Maybe too triggering…